Important News About The Next Chapter

Over the past few years, millions of people have unlocked their creativity with the Autodesk 123D apps and community. We’ve grown from one desktop tool in 2011 to multiple apps across desktop, web, and mobile.

We’re incredibly proud of these products, and even more proud of what you all have MADE with them. But we recognize that the portfolio has become complex. We are making some changes to simplify our Autodesk portfolio and workflows for people everywhere who love to make things. We are consolidating these tools and features into key apps such as Tinkercad, Fusion 360, and ReMake.

Today, we are sharing the news that in early 2017, after we complete this consolidation, we’ll be shutting down 123Dapp.com and turning off many of the apps to new download. Rest assured that we remain committed to providing free tools to hobbyists, kids, hackers, and makers around the world. We value you, your models, and are going to do this consolidation in the right way.

You’ll be able to access and download your content from 123Dapp.com in the coming months. We will make every effort to make sure you will be notified before we make any changes to the apps or website.

What’s next? We’ll be working closely with you, the 123D Community of users, to make sure your questions are answered. We’ll be sharing more details on this blog and our support forums, and will notify you when we start to implement changes.

Autodesk is committed to help people make anything and we are committed to help you continue to do just that. Look for more detailed information in the next few days, weeks and months.

–The Autodesk 123D Team

Comments

  • vonslatt

    A free non-commercial version of Fusion 360 would be most welcome!

    • David S Clarke

      Fusion360 Ultimate is already free for enthusiasts

      • CAD guy

        And free for start-ups making under $100K. About as free as it can be ;)

  • http://eagleapex.com eagleapex

    I just got into 123D Make. Where will this powerful utility end up?

    • scottmoyse

      That is what I’m most concerned about… it should be in Fusion 360 for sure! It will be a missed opportunity if it isn’t put into Fusion… it should be in Inventor as well!

      • Matthew Weake

        123D Make functions should be in every CAD product. Please, please, please and pretty please let them come to Fusion 360 and Inventor!

    • Yuriy Sklyar

      It’s going into Fusion.

    • Guillermo Melantoni Cortabarri

      We are releasing a new version of 123D Make that doesn’t consume any of the services that will be shut down in March. It will be called Slicer for Fusion 360 and will be available soon in the Fusion App Store. It will have one click workflows with Fusion (sending a Fusion model into Slicer) and then saving the results into Fusion Team. The app will also be able to be used standalone and save locally, although the ideal usage will be using Fusion Team. So before retiring Make we’ll have Slicer available. As the blog post said, we have very clear paths and solutions for users of Design, Make and Catch.

  • J Knight

    Does Fusion 360 have the kind of slicing that 123D Make offers? I know I could do it manually in most CAD programs, but it’s pretty slick as an App.

    • scottmoyse

      It’s not in Fusion 360… Hopefully it will be.

    • Matthew Weake

      It is such a good tool for slicing up a model and doing basic nesting. Love to see this in Fusion 360 and Inventor!

    • Guillermo Melantoni Cortabarri

      We are rebuilding Make to become a new product that will work with Fusion 360 but also be able to be used standalone without need to connect to the cloud services we are shutting down. More info on that very soon.

  • Tech4Teachers

    As long as this doesn’t impact 123d circuits…..which I have found equally vital for teaching electronics…..far better than Fritzing or Electronics Workbench. We now use Fusion 360 even for lower grades …..just simpler projects…..so we totally understand that move to consolidate.

    Thanks Autodesk we appreciate all your hard work and. Many Many Many updates. It’s a living ecosystem, somethings die to feed other projects ….way of the world. We in education really appreciate your huge contributions to the maker generation coming up the ranks.

  • Dave Akkerman

    I really hope you will still offer hood to use Ipad apps like 123d design and Sculpt +. As teacher at a middelschool where every student uses an Ipad use these apps frequently for 3d printing design purposes. We don’t really have any pc’s anymore in school for the lower years, apart from a vfew very slow one’s only for controlling the 3d printers and lasercutter. I use fusion360 myself but this isn’t an option at the moment for my students unless you guys make an IOS app for it off course, that would be awesome.

    • scottmoyse

      Fusion 360 is coming in the browser next year.

      • Dave Akkerman

        O wow, good news. Didn’t knew that. Thnx

    • Rick LeRoy

      They teach 3d modeling in middleschool now?

      • David

        Yes we do :)

    • Jen Holsinger-Raybourn

      YES! We are scrambling to come up with alternatives now for my Elementary art room. What are you using instead?

    • Alicia Testa

      I second that about Scuplt+. We could have a good design of an animal in about 90 minutes. My students found it easy to use and workable. I have not seen another product as well designed to use with students. We have created most of our figurines from this app. I have been told to use tinkercad but it does not have the sculpting abilities. I am hoping that some of the advanced features of 123D design will be blended into TinkerCade and see an upgrade on its features.

  • amigacooke

    Looks like the tablets are being abandoned. Shame.

  • Mohsen

    This is Autodesk. Wait until people love products then shot them down. This s the main part on the history of Autodesk and why I changed to Alibre Design

    • scottmoyse

      Didn’t you read it? They aren’t killing the functionality and it will still be available for free to those who were using 123D for free anyway. And if you don’t use 123D products anyway, then why are you here bitching?

      • Mohsen

        1- Of course I use these free tools. I talked about the main softwares.
        2- Take care about your words. They show your education level.

        • scottmoyse

          You have no idea about my education level, in the same way I have no idea about yours. But since you bring up education…. check out the Tech4Teachers realistic attitude of how products come and go and reach the end of their lifecycle. Things change, you’re naive if you think 3D Systems won’t change their product packaging or kill products in the future. They will if it makes sense to them and they think it will make sense for the majority of their customer base, just like any company anywhere in the world does. You clearly just dislike Autodesk, so why bother spending time commenting negatively on a thread about an Autodesk product you don’t pay for? You have to expect free stuff to either stop being supported or get killed off at some point. You must be bored in the lead up to the holidays. Merry Christmas and Happy holidays!

      • SonyAD

        The tools will no longer be available for download starting March 31st next year or earlier. And obviously, no more updates either.

  • Oliver Acevedo

    Does this include circuits.io?

    • scottmoyse

      It would be nice to get some clarity on that.

    • Yuriy Sklyar

      It’ll still be alive and will eventually be a part of Tinkercad

  • http://www.cad-notes.com/ Edwin Prakoso

    Where will 123D Catch belong to?

    • Yuriy Sklyar

      ReMake

  • MisterG

    That is a pity. In our school we use 123D Design from Year 8-12 to develop designs that are manufactured on our 3D printers, laser cutters and CNC machines. It has evolved into a powerful but easy to use package that gives “water-tight” 3D prints and works well on the student’s macs. Perfectly placed between TinkerCAD and Fusion 360.

    I am hoping to see 123D file import and dxf export (for laser cutter) in Fusion 360 as a possible replacement. Would prefer the option of laptop based rather than cloud based app and local file storage as well.

    Question : For how ling will 123D design continue to be usable into the future?

    Special thanks to Autodesk for making this amazing product available and the many updates that enhanced it’s capabilities. It will be missed.

    • Guillermo Melantoni Cortabarri

      The desktop version of 123D Design will keep working if you open and save locally. It won’t be affected by shutting down cloud services, except that you won’t be able to save to the cloud.
      We’ll work on making a future transition into Fusion much easier (as in importing 123dx files).

      • MisterG

        Thanks Guillermo. We will keep using 123D design and migrate to another application at the appropriate time. I have been playing with Fusion 360 and like what I see. Great depth and definitely an option for the older students. STL export to 3D printers seems to work fine (with details such as threads not exporting but that may be a settings issue). Add in dxf generation and 123dx import and all will be good.

  • skitrak

    Will the current desktop versions continue to work in the future or are you planning to do something to prevent them from working?

    • SonyAD

      They’ll continue to work but you won’t be able to download them starting March 31st next year or earlier. The cloud based functionality won’t work (saving models to the cloud, importing or loading models from the cloud etc.).

    • Guillermo Melantoni Cortabarri

      From the desktop apps, the only one that will work after March 31st is 123D Design.
      123D Make currently requires connection to the cloud to export the layouts. But we’ll replace Make with a new app that will be found in the Fusion App Store, and will work both standalone and with Fusion.
      123 Catch will stop working, and you can use Autodesk ReMake, which has many more features and has a freemium business model.

      • skitrak

        123Design is the one I care the most about. I uses it a lot and not always when I am connected to the internet.

  • Sacha

    I am really upset about the latest changes the software-industry demands on their customers! This week I spent hours with discussions with adobe to retrieve my licences after they cancelled it for who knows what reason. Don’t be confused if people go back to software piracy. Even Apple does not care about if devices made for their hardware stops working with new os – as happened with my stylus. Bad changes for the whole it-business. Hope I will be able to use my paid apps in the future!

  • A Fred

    I’m confused, so the 123D products are still going to be around and be available for download and updates? Just the website is being merged?

    • SonyAD

      Up until March 31st, next year. Possibly earlier than that.

      • A Fred

        Project Lead the Way has recently built a middle school curriculum using 123D Design instead of using Inventor. Guess they will have to do something else now.

        • SonyAD

          You can use Fusion 360 Ultimate for free but it requires a 64 bit operating system. And you can still use 123D Design indefinitely. You’ll just have to download a copy of the installer and keep it safe because you’ll no longer be able to download the installer from the website coming March 31st or possibly earlier.

          I’ve already downloaded 123D Design installers for both 32 and 64 bit Windows OSes for safe keeping on my computer and will be checking back weekly to see if they release a final new version before March 31st.

          Current version is 2.2.14.

          It’s kinda disappointing cause a few new features and bug fixes have been hinted at on the forum / helpdesk not that long ago so I guess the development team didn’t know themselves that 123D Design and other 123D apps were slated to get axed at the time. I hope they’ll still release one more final update before completely axing it.

          • Manos

            So, what we have to do, is download all the programs we need from 123dapp.com
            because the site will go down?

        • SonyAD

          It’s just the cloud functionality that will go away for 123D Design.

        • Guillermo Melantoni Cortabarri

          PLTW uses a version of 123D Design called 123D Design for Education. So the desktop and tablet version for PLTW will still be around.

          • A Fred

            Samething – (Potato-Potato) Poe-tA-to – Poe-tah-to …

  • Albert Anderson

    Is there any way to download all my 123d sculpts?. When i click on a model it redirects to tinkercad crap.

    • disqus_EtFOdC1glj

      Same here, I can’t even access my account now.

  • Tom Gray

    A comment for software developers — please make error messages helpful. I’m trying to do a shell and get that “Invalid operation” message. PLEASE — WHY is it invalid? Is the shape too complex? (NO- it’s a plain cube!). Am I trying to do the wrong face? (I can sometimes do the top but never a side…but why should that be a problem?).
    This is a message that is of no value to the user because it doesn’t say what the problem is and so gives no hints as to how to solve the issue.

  • David

    I’m very sad and a bit upset. My students (I’m aD&T teacher in London) really like to use 123D Design. I hope you will reconsider your decision. Tinkercad is a great app but for more advanced students 123D Design is the best in middle school.

    • Guillermo Melantoni Cortabarri

      123D Design desktop will still work if you open and save locally, so you can keep using it. That said, it won’t have support and no new features. It would make a lot of sense to start checking out Fusion 360, and we’ll have tutorials and info about how to best use Fusion if you are coming from 123D Design.

  • Jen Holsinger-Raybourn

    SO BUMMED! I teach elementary art with a 1:1 iPad ratio and designing a 21st century Gargoyle is my 3rd graders favorite project all year and the tools are just gone! Is there an alternative available for iPad now? I know so many teachers that REALLY rely on Autodesk becuase of your free platform… HELP!

  • whistletalker

    TinkerCAD fails and Fails and Fails again

  • Mac_Gyver

    if TINKERCAD is payd for acces i pay now!!!!!!!!!!! it’s a splendid software… please dont close this

  • Josh Schmidt

    What about 123d catch? I just tried downloading the app and it is no longer available in the app store?

  • SonyAD

    Can we please get one final version update with some of the promised fixes? Such as support for importing binary .obj or .stl files rather than just ASCII ones?

  • Andrea

    Hi, I need to make downloading 123d Make for Mac. But for several days on the iTunes App does not exist. Can you tell me a valid link to download? thank you

  • Sarah Carmody

    Will we be able to access our files through meshmixer?

  • Daniel Perez

    This is kind of a disaster for my library makerspace. Setting up computers to run on software that requires a cloud-based log-in for every project is a nightmare for accessibility and security. I spent two and a half years teaching people how to use 123D Design, and making tutorial videos that have received tens of thousands of views. Now I’m going to have to find a non-Autodesk alternative. Whelp. It’s been fun.

    • Jon Soong

      Hey Daniel – would love for you to give our 3D design app a try – http://www.makersempire.com (or on the app stores). Let me know if you need a hand.

    • West Coast Alpha Gam

      Hi Daniel, We will still have 123D Design for Education on the app stores for use. We understand that it is upsetting but I can say we are very excited about what will be coming in the new year.

  • Gabriel Montreuil

    Hello, this is great!

    Since Autodesk will be making big changes in some pieces of their 3D offerings, I decided that I would go and download 123D Design before the integration changes planned in march 2017.
    This website gives us a link to go to the Apple App store to download it, but it is not available for Canadian users. :face_with_rolling_eyes:

    «Item not available. The item you’ve requested is not currently available in the Canadian store»

  • Anne McMills

    I gotta be honest… I’m kinda losing my mind over this announcement. I’ve just completed a manuscript for a textbook that I’ve been working on for too long. It has large sections about 123d catch and meshmixer in it. Seems like meshmixer might be okay — anyone heard differently? But I’m not sure what to do about Catch and my deadline is the end of this month. yikes!!! I haven’t been able to get ahold of anyone about it yet. I was okay when I thought the Catch app still existed in the app store, but now I can’t find it.

  • Justin Brunick

    Well, this sucks. I developed my entire Maker class on using Sculpt+ on our student iPads. I worked out all of my lesson plans this summer and then, come last week and the start of 2nd Semester, I sit down to have my kids in my 2nd Semester Maker Class download Sculpt+, only to find out it’s not in the App Store anymore. Now I am scrambling to find and learn a new software. Very disappointed.

  • Justin Brunick

    Well, this sucks. I developed my entire Maker class on using Sculpt+ on our student iPads. I worked out all of my lesson plans this summer and then, come last week and the start of 2nd Semester, I sit down to have my kids in my 2nd Semester Maker Class download Sculpt+ and find out it’s not in the App Store anymore. Now I am scrambling to find and learn a new software. Very disappointed.

  • Med

    OK, if you are putting 123d design down, please, update tinkercad with more features and fix the issues! Fillets and chanfers i.e. a lot of times don’t need all the “power” and complexity of fusion 360 just make some small adjustments to some designs.